tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34454975.post5220325424155488363..comments2023-06-28T16:58:41.189+02:00Comments on Web Reflection: Few Modern JavaScript InconsistenciesAndrea Giammarchihttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16277820774810688474noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34454975.post-65332359623964735692013-04-27T12:40:14.930+02:002013-04-27T12:40:14.930+02:00and once again, Please Do Not Support Too Old Brow...and once again, <b>Please Do Not Support Too Old Browsers</b> paragraph is your best mantra ^_^Andrea Giammarchihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16277820774810688474noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34454975.post-86761754273412052852013-04-27T12:35:33.434+02:002013-04-27T12:35:33.434+02:00But IE8 is still widely used. And IE8 does not sup...But IE8 is still widely used. And IE8 does not support a lot of the nice ES5 features, even shen shimmed.<br /><br />So until IE8 is dead too, all the "properties" stuff is unfit for most of us, no matter what Apple does.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16142713386882965002noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34454975.post-78822774986162264582013-04-27T12:17:07.565+02:002013-04-27T12:17:07.565+02:00here the global stats about IE, version 6 does not...<a href="https://twitter.com/paul_irish/status/327831808240660480/photo/1" rel="nofollow">here the global stats about IE</a>, version 6 does not, and should not, matter anymore right NOW!Andrea Giammarchihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16277820774810688474noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34454975.post-41065740158602209732013-04-27T12:14:23.292+02:002013-04-27T12:14:23.292+02:00What I mean, is ttat nobody cares to put a bloody ...What I mean, is ttat nobody cares to put a bloody "your flash player is not updated" in any website, but the browser not updated is an ignored problem? I don't like/promote/support that from any point.<br /><br />If you care about the web, you should care about informig your users they cannot have the web now because they are way behind modern possibilities.<br /><br />Let them switch, and they will thank you and the day after, forget about old IE ... "they can drag and drop files in the email", can you imagine?Andrea Giammarchihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16277820774810688474noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34454975.post-272367052287441332013-04-27T12:14:21.058+02:002013-04-27T12:14:21.058+02:00God Bless California! :-)God Bless California! :-)Gabriele Romanatohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02236786174922788167noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34454975.post-3572190709460740922013-04-27T12:11:30.653+02:002013-04-27T12:11:30.653+02:00OK, 13% IE6 is simply insane but indeed this is a ...OK, 13% IE6 is simply insane but indeed this is a problem and I've suggested to make these users aware.<br /><br />Italy, however, is similar to China, pirated Windows XP is a classic so I still don't buy that.<br /><br />If all sites start suggesting Chrome, as example, or Chrome Frame, whenever IE is less than 9, users will start get it and will be, indeed, a graceful migration.<br /><br />If you keep supporting 13% of IE because of that number, those users will never bring you business value plus you spend more and you limit yourself to supporto those users.<br /><br />This latter concept never worked here in California, but Italy is indeed 36 place about IT and Web progress, right? Well, that's Repubblica and all Web Developers fault too.<br /><br />Chrome is free, for gosh sake!Andrea Giammarchihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16277820774810688474noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34454975.post-61629931069407698132013-04-27T11:20:12.133+02:002013-04-27T11:20:12.133+02:00The problem with old browsers and modern ECMAScrip...The problem with old browsers and modern ECMAScript features is that there are still many users out there who are currently surfing the web with one of those relics. When I spoke to Repubblica's developers last October I was shocked by the fact that their stats still showed a significant percentage of IE6's users (about 13%). As a developer I agree with Ian Hickson when he said that we should code to the standards, not to the lowest common denominator (guess what it is?). As a freelance, my problems are still related to what clients consider a priority, namely an impossible cross-browser compatibility that forces us to write rubbish code just to not break some (one?) browsers. :-)Gabriele Romanatohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02236786174922788167noreply@blogger.com